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    • CommentAuthorhassan
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007 edited
     
    After claiming that most of the Ebay scammers are Linux users, Ebay is now using Tux on their protect yourself webpage.

    I have already sent them an email complaining about this, if you want, you can do the same.


    http://pages.ebay.com.au/protectyourself/
    • CommentAuthortorerling
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     
    I can't se no tux
    • CommentAuthorVogateer
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     
    I can't either, perhaps you could tell us in detail how we can find him, hassan.
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      CommentAuthorJay
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     
    Wouldn't that be kind of hipocrytical? I mean most of Paypal is on Linux.
    • CommentAuthorhassan
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     
    they have apparently removed it,
    you could play a flash game and the guy with the red shirt had a tux logo on it (the bad scammer using linux to steal your money).
    • CommentAuthorhassan
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     
    i have managed to find a dug mirror for this:


    http://duggmirror.com/linux_unix/WTF_eBay_using_Tux_as_a_symbol_for_Internet_fraud/
    • CommentAuthorpsychcf
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007 edited
     
    here it is: http://pages.ebay.com.au/dunkthescammer/ yep they removed the tux logo...
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      CommentAuthorJay
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     
    Well at least they fixed it. Its obvious that they think a hacker, cracker and *nix user is the same as a scammer. Makes them look as clueless as the people they are giving tips to.
    • CommentAuthorpsychcf
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2007
     
    I think you guys are being a bit critical, not all linux users are scammers, everyone knows that... heck half the people who see that won't even know what it is...
    • CommentAuthorVogateer
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2007
     
    To note, one of them also had an atari controller on his shirt. I don't think they were looking to discredit linux, just using "geek" symbols without much thought. All the same, I don't want Tux associated with crackers and phishers.
    • CommentAuthorSebulba
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2007
     
    Posted By: VogateerI don't want Tux associated with crackers and phishers.

    Yep, stayin' in the shadows means you can hit more effectively HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    • CommentAuthorVogateer
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2007
     
    Wish I knew why that was funny...
    • CommentAuthortorerling
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2007
     
    Hehe, it actully tickled my funnybone ;)
    • CommentAuthorVogateer
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2007
     
    Posted By: torerlingHehe, it actully tickled my funnybone ;)

    Care to explain why?
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    Vogateer, did you get a beat down with the serious stick? :( awww....
    • CommentAuthorVogateer
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2007
     
    Hell, I'm not trying to be serious in any way that would keep me from laughing, I just flat out don't understand the joke. It sucks to have to ask someone to help me "get it," but I'm willing to humble myself, be unmanly, and ask for help; even though it feels like asking for directions at a gas station because you're lost.
    • CommentAuthortorerling
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2007
     
    sebulba meant that by not getting tux assossiated with crackers and phishers, make our secret plan easier by going into hiding, and from ther crack and phish ourselves to heaven, if that made any sense, or just made you more confused :P
    • CommentAuthorSebulba
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2007 edited
     
    Hackers tend to use shells to help avoid the back trace to source, as well as being able to mimic a genuine network resource. M$ technically has a shell, it's called Explorer...but that's your lot. Hacking without a shell is like doing all the hard work to get a fake Police badge, then not being able to use the uniform when imitating a Police Officer (sort of).....the point is that you can't hide your identity fully no matter how you try.....you're always gonna stand out as an outsider despite the credentials you show. Of course, even mimicking an authorized resource still needs other stuff like passwords etc.

    Hackers working from a M$ box want to get shell accounts from their ISPs (assuming they want their behavior to remain hidden). ISP's can and do give shell accounts to users, but users have to ask for them specifically.....and they have to explain why they want (or need) one. Unlike most requests from ISP's getting a shell account requires you to phone and speak to a sysadmin to put your case.......sysadmins KNOW you want a shell for hacking, so you're gonna have to be prepared and VERY smooth talking for them to buy your excuse. Linux is built on shells, we have them to spare....which avoids all the ISP bullshit.

    A lot of "hacking" tools are just "sysadmin" tools used for different purposes.....look at the wealth of sysadmin tools available to Linux. The reason hackers prefer to use Linux are the same reasons sysadmins prefer to use Linux. The ease of scripting in Linux allows new custom programs to be created very quickly for those with knowledge, bypassing the "hacking tools" available on many websites....most of which will contain trojans allowing the creators a back door into YOUR system. These exploits are designed to hit M$, so hackers can play with VERY destructive tools in complete safety before unleashing them.

    My joke was about hackers preferring Linux, we just don't want to be associated with them. After all, if you know which weapon I will use, could you defend yourself better? By NOT using M$ you're going full custom....which is a LOT harder to defend against......hence (along with a shell account) "hit from the shadows". Many security set ups will be designed to fight a M$ attack, with counter programs to match. If a counter program sends you a hidden .exe which is designed to install and identify you....what does that .exe do in a Linux PC?

    I am not a hacker BTW I just have an interest in various topics.

    I could have made a joke about "crack smelling like phish" but I'll leave that to the filthier minds HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    • CommentAuthorVogateer
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2007
     
    Thanks for the explanation. I had a vague idea that was what you were on about, though I'll probably stick to Frasier for my humor. 8-p

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